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Title: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: zeppline on January 22, 2008, 10:53:59 PM
I downloaded Weatherlink 5.8 and checked USB to check out the software.  Big mistake, it changes a byte in the datalogger and will only run USB . They have a program to change it back to serial but it does not work and you get an error code. Called Davis support and they know it and are working on it, no time span to fix the problem. My web page has been down for three days. They agreed to swap out my logger to get me going. MY USB has always work well. I am going back to 5.7 for a while, waiting for logger. DO NOT CHECK USB ON 5.8 WEATHERLINK SOFTWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR NOT COM PORTS PERIOD.  There is a warning about third party software and com port. But no warning of a one way street.        Joe

Update: the later versions of wlink 5.8 now have the cpx210.exe program included in the install...run that is the usb data logger has been set to USBexpress mode, to set it back to normal USB to serial mode
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: SoftWx on January 22, 2008, 11:25:55 PM
I tried the USB connection option of WeatherLink 5.8 with my test console which is USB. WeatherLink said it couldn't find it. But I was able to connect to it using the virtual COM port just like I did with the previous version of WeatherLink. I understand your warning about the USB option in WeatherLink, but I don't understand you saying the same think for the COM port option, as I've tried it and it seemed ok to me.

Steve
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: SoftWx on January 22, 2008, 11:51:16 PM
Just a thought, but why don't you try uninstalling the Davis drivers, rebooting, and then reinstalling the drivers. I'd be curious to know if that allowed you to go back to using the COM port connection you used to use.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: zeppline on January 23, 2008, 12:00:09 AM
I have done that. The problem is in the logger. If you click on USB in the com page it changes the information in the usb logger and you can not change it back to work on serial. It's a bug in there software. They are sending me a new logger. Joe
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: niko on January 23, 2008, 01:24:25 AM
Sorry but I'm lost, can you explain that a bit? Your profile says you have a USB logger, so that can only work USB - right? How did it ever work on serial ?
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: SoftWx on January 23, 2008, 01:26:59 AM
I think the problem is that before version 5.8, WeatherLink (and other weather software too) comunicated with the console by using a virtual COM port created by the driver. With version 5.8, it looks like Davis is skipping the virtual COM port and communicating directly through the USB driver, skipping the virtual COM port.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: niko on January 23, 2008, 01:51:35 AM
Scary  8O
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: zeppline on January 23, 2008, 01:56:23 AM
Niko
Yes I have a USB logger I clicked on USB and it worked OK. But it changed something in the logger per Davis support so it is USB only. There are no com ports. I then clicked on serial it shows the com port but will not find them. There is a program in the Weatherlink 5.8 directory to change the logger back to serial but it does not work and gives an errors. The program USB to CP210X.ex? has a bug and will not change logger back to serial with virtual Com ports.  Davis is sending me a logger USB that will work. I removed 5.8 and re installed 5.71.                IF IT WORKS LEAVE IT ALONE!   Joe
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: Automan on January 23, 2008, 09:36:57 AM
Indeed they seem to offer Silabs USBXpress to skip the UART
http://www.eetindia.co.in/ARTICLES/2007APR/PDF/EEIOL_2007APR27_NETD_AN_01.pdf?SOURCES=DOWNLOAD may be of interest and perhaps Softx could use this with an alternate version of VVP if it chats to the device any better?

I see the install also installs a folder with V5.0 of the standard USB drivers

Automan.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: warwickpaweather on January 23, 2008, 11:40:38 AM
My serial logger and 5.8 work fine.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: SoftWx on January 23, 2008, 02:00:56 PM
I think that's what Davis did in WL 5.8, and apparently the experience is not so good. There is also a person on another forum with the USB connection drop problem who tried WL 5.8 in USB mode, and although the connection problem didn't occur as frequently, it still occurred. The way VirtualVP works around the VP USB problem has completely solved the issue for many people. I know this because they've written and told me. I think I will stick with the current method since it's proved successful in almost all cases.

Steve
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: Automan on January 23, 2008, 05:23:28 PM
If this USB problem happens with all new USB VP2 interfaces uses who wish to move away from the provided Weatherlink to an alternate product could have an issue.

e.g. Someone buys a VP2, USB Logger and runs weatherlink 5.8 selecting USB.

Weeks later they note Weatherlink is a bit limited in what it does and want to try WD but cannot because no COM port is available.

Automan.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: zeppline on January 23, 2008, 10:28:59 PM
I talked to Larry in support at Davis and he said several people have had this problem and they are working on a fix and hope to have it soon. I don't know how long soon is, so I ask them to swap my logger so I can get it going again. They are sending me a logger.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: prodata on January 25, 2008, 08:13:27 AM
Davis ... are working on a fix

There is now a v2 of the utility to convert back to serial port operation, which should have the bug fixed. It should be uploaded to the Davis site in the next day or two.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: Gtstricky on January 25, 2008, 03:09:25 PM
If this USB problem happens with all new USB VP2 interfaces uses who wish to move away from the provided Weatherlink to an alternate product could have an issue.

e.g. Someone buys a VP2, USB Logger and runs weatherlink 5.8 selecting USB.

Weeks later they note Weatherlink is a bit limited in what it does and want to try WD but cannot because no COM port is available.

Automan.

That is exactly what happened to me. I have had my station up for a week. I setup my web page with Weatherlink last night and thought 'this is ugly'. Found WD and thought that looks nice and has more options. Went to try the trial version and I can not get it to communicate since there is no Com port. I have been everywhere (boards) trying to figure this out. I am so glad I found this post. I was starting to think I was loosing it. I am not sure how to proceed though. With the new software Davis will not be assigning a com port to the usb anymore? So will WD create a fix or is the only way to downgrade the Weatherlink software?



Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: Automan on January 29, 2008, 05:37:07 PM
Another item you may wish to beware of with WL 5.8 is if you are running Vista.

It will install itself under C:\Program Files\Weatherlink and apparently create a folder under Weatherlink containing your station data.

Of course it is not, and Vista just pretends that's the location of your data so when you try and backup that area under program files your data is not actually saved.

Your data will actually be stored under "C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\WeatherLink"

If you paste the above line including quotes into the start menu "Start Search" box it should take you to the folder.

Automan.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: zeppline on January 29, 2008, 07:52:35 PM
Gtstricky I would call Davis support and see if they have a fix. The problem is the Davis USB logger gets changed when to choose USB. They were working on a fix. The program that changes the logger back to serial with com ports does not work. I ask to swap data logger and they did (USB) I removed 5.8 and installed 5.7 every thing is working OK.  Joe
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: prodata on February 02, 2008, 08:16:56 AM
I see that the updated utility to reset the USB logger for compatibility with the virtual COM port driver is now posted on the Davis site at:

http://www.davisnet.com/support/weather/software_driver.asp

This particular bug is hopefully now squashed.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: Weather Display on February 02, 2008, 09:34:23 AM
thats good news
re the vista thing, make sure to run weatherlink as administrator....
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8 USB datalogger
Post by: Pilot on March 06, 2008, 09:32:26 PM
I am completely confused, just upgraded from LA CROSSE to VANTAGEPRO2 and trying to resume the WD & WDL.
My weatherlink is USB, it works fine with the Davis 5.80 program (comport defined as USB), what shall I do in the WD Comport number setup (how can I know what Comport number has windows assigned ?) Can someone  explain it to me as I got lost with the advices in the forum, is there a simple and step by step solution ?
shall I try it with the 5.7.1 version ? please...
pitzi2@bezeqint.net
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: zeppline on March 07, 2008, 12:17:26 AM
Go to Davis web site and down load progran to change logger back to serial. Then when you set up 5.8 pick serial and you will get com ports. Do not pick USB.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: Stevec4 on July 03, 2008, 12:54:53 PM
There is an update to 5.8.1 available on the davis site .
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: aardvark on July 03, 2008, 02:03:29 PM
visited with Raymond... Weatherlink doesn't  work with  64 bit Vista systems  and they don't predict in the near future a program change.  However... Weather Display works just fine.
Title: DAVIS IP DATA LOGGER & WEATHER DISPLAY
Post by: harvey on September 05, 2008, 09:02:50 AM
Is there any one out there using:
DAVIS ENVOY with a IP DATA LOGGER and Weather Display

I am trying but WD on my PC seems to lock up my Davis Data logger on my LAN

Harvey
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: Weather Display on September 15, 2008, 06:34:04 PM
we got the lock up sorted (it was due to a HTTP clientraw set to download in the client/server setup)
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8
Post by: maracay on March 12, 2009, 07:26:02 PM
That is exactly what happened to me. I have had my station up for a week. I setup my web page with Weatherlink last night and thought 'this is ugly'. Found WD and thought that looks nice and has more options. Went to try the trial version and I can not get it to communicate since there is no Com port. I have been everywhere (boards) trying to figure this out. I am so glad I found this post. I was starting to think I was loosing it. I am not sure how to proceed though. With the new software Davis will not be assigning a com port to the usb anymore? So will WD create a fix or is the only way to downgrade the Weatherlink software?




Davis has v2 on their site for download, place in program files/weather display and run it. it changes to serial. After days of hunting and trying we finally got it from usbExpress to serial. Works like a charm.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Weather Display on March 12, 2009, 07:42:38 PM
note that is also a FAQ detailnig  how to unset the USBExpress mode
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: aardvark on March 12, 2009, 08:22:47 PM
I upgraded to 5.8.3  this morning.   there are no new items and it doesn't improve or detract from 5.8.2  or help vista.  the only thing I could see is some minor fixes for things I don't have ..yet and the ability to do something with the wind calibration.. WD has done this for a very long time.

At best, on a 64 bit system, it splits up the program, putting some in the program files, some in the virtualstore ( you have to hunt there for your datafiles). 

At best it isn't the best and I really have issue with it costing so much for it and the logger, and they don't have it more compatible with vista and all of the reports you have to go hunt. 

However, it does present the data different ways for me and now that I can use Virtual VP, I get the best of both programs.    I think WL  is for the novice and WD is still the best out there.
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Weather Display on March 12, 2009, 08:32:16 PM
not sure how all that relates to USBexpress mode though?
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: bgf55 on November 18, 2010, 06:33:17 PM
OK, I need a little help here too...

I have a Davis Vantage Pro 2 which I've had running with WeatherLink 5.9.2 and (without knowing any better) I ticked the USB option but now I need to convert the datalogger back to virtual serial mode so I can use Weather Display software.

After reading this forum I downloaded CP210X_USB_Serial_Converter_ver2.exe from the Davis site but when I try to run it I get "This application has failed to start because CP210XManufacturing.dll was not found."

It's probably worth noting that I had heaps of trouble installing The Davis WeatherLink software in the first place because my HDD is F: drive so I had to modify the installer because Davis set one little parameter in there to C:  :x, don't know if this could once again be my problem but I have no idea how to modify CP210X?

Any ideas?

P.S. Why can't the Weather Display software just have a USB option?? It would make things so much easier!
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Weather Display on November 18, 2010, 07:00:16 PM
make sure to download and run from where you have weather link installed
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: bgf55 on November 19, 2010, 07:32:23 AM
Gotta love the simple solutions! Thanks Brian, that did the trick!
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: orion_jb2001 on August 17, 2011, 11:21:09 PM
All these posts about weatherlink are all very interesting.  I am about to update my gear here to Davis VP2 cabled with weatherlink updated 593 and also still wishing to run WD.  I will be running virtualVP incase I need to run both WD and weatherlink at the same time (currently running LeCrosse 2355 and it is a pain in the butt when you need to run WD and heavy weather at the same time!!!!!).

Will I have any of these problems with the USB weatherlink version as mentioned in this site, if running virtualVP or some hints in how I should set this up.   :wink:
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Weather Display on August 18, 2011, 01:45:33 AM
just make sure to set weather link to serial mode (i.e virtual serial port mode)
and then you will have a com port number to use, in device manager, ports

note that WD works direct with a la crosse 2355 type station with no need to use heavy weather at the same time
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: orion_jb2001 on August 18, 2011, 01:52:08 AM
So set it to serial mode even using virtualVP?  Yes WD does work direct with WS2355 but when I want to reset the history dat with heavy weather, to record only data from when computer shuts down....... thats what I am referring to.  But all past tense shortly.  Probably off this topic, but using the weatherlink program, will I be able to update WD when I reboot the computer with download data from the Davis VP2??

Jeff
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Weather Display on August 18, 2011, 02:02:48 AM
yes, Virtual VP will need it to be set to serial mode as well

yes, the davis data logger stores the data for WD to get on start up :)
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Budgie on August 18, 2011, 07:37:47 AM
If you go to Control Panel > Datalogger in WD and turn the switch ON then WD should download the missing data from both the VP2 and WS23** stations when restarted.
When I had my WS2300 I never used Heavy Weather once I had WD up & running. Now I have the VP2, I don't use Weatherlink either.  :wink:
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Weather Display on August 18, 2011, 07:40:08 AM
the issue is that the 3rd party program that WD uses for the history data from a 23XX station (hist2300) does not work under vista or W7
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Budgie on August 18, 2011, 07:45:33 AM
Ahh, I was using XP at the time.  :D
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: orion_jb2001 on September 02, 2011, 08:00:55 PM
Just as a follow up, Davis VP2 and weatherlink 5.93 installed, using a virtual serial port program thats happy with wind 7 64 bit and USB version with serial port activated.  All working well, running weatherlink and WD at the same time.  Both programs update data when computer re boots, although sometimes WD has a little spit and doesn't update data but you can generally go into control panel, reset the time to reload from and on the next reboot of WD it loads the missing data.  :o)
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: BigD on September 08, 2011, 12:16:43 AM

Just being nosey, what Program are you running to split the data stream from the VP2  is it VVP?  or something else?


I use VirtualVP and am happy with it but alwaysl looking to learn about alternatives just in case...

Thanks

Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: orion_jb2001 on September 08, 2011, 08:29:30 AM
I am running windows 64 and I believe virtual VP and 64bit dont like each other.  I am using Virtual Serial Port Emulator, a small cost for the lifetime microsoft licence, dut to the 64 bit particulars. But works seamlessly, even has a command line to have it up and running during the boot up, so it is ready to run the weather programs of the VP2. :o)

Jeff
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: BigD on September 08, 2011, 01:09:55 PM
once I saw the website - I knew I had run into that before, One day my old 32 bit laptops will die and 64 bit/and or Win7/8 will be required so just keeping up on things.  Thanks for the reply.  8)


Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Jannes on January 14, 2012, 02:38:06 PM
Hello forum members

Yesterday I bought the Weather Display Live by email and did receive a serial number. But this does not work for a serial connection on my xp computer. Does anyone know what to do?

Greetings Jannes
Title: Re: Weatherlink 5.8-> USBxpress mode
Post by: Budgie on January 14, 2012, 02:45:47 PM
Weather Display Live is an add-on to the Weather Display software and is used to display the live date on a website using Flash. So you will need both Weather Display & Weather Display Live.