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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #90 on: June 12, 2019, 06:41:16 AM »
Well.......I'm very sorry to say this, but I liked the graphics on April version better. New version has become too sterile. The round elements added some humanity.  Weather sites are boring for many ppl. (my GF thinks this is a waste of time) It was nice to have some graphic elements that were not so square.

The original W34 designer had a big background in graphic design, and that appears to be lost now.
You can always continue to use the April version or any other version.  A lot of users customise a version and continue to use them for years.  One of them even has a a topic about his effort and successes on this forum.

Round: Or you can use the round option on the July release: https://www.weerstation-herent.be/pws07/?round

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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #91 on: June 12, 2019, 09:36:34 AM »
Round: Or you can use the round option on the July release: https://www.weerstation-herent.be/pws07/?round

But the round option does not appear in the menu, and is not "sticky": if you change from dark to light theme it goes back to square.
It's meant to be fun. . .

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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #92 on: June 12, 2019, 09:44:07 AM »
But the round option does not appear in the menu, and is not "sticky": if you change from dark to light theme it goes back to square.
No it is not sticky yet. Nobody whose uses another language as English,  wanted it so far.
With the round option most texts will not fit and IMHO the other HWS templates (s.a. https://weather34.com/ ) changed to square also  for that reason.
I will put it in the menu and in easyweathersetup.

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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #93 on: June 12, 2019, 02:06:50 PM »
Well.......I'm very sorry to say this, but I liked the graphics on April version better. New version has become too sterile. The round elements added some humanity.

Have to agree. Come and join me in the customising business!

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The original W34 designer had a big background in graphic design

Actually I think he's lost the plot, now, looking at his latest effort: https://weather34.com/?theme=dark (Sorry, Brian!).

What I liked about the early templates ("I design simplicity") was the understatement. Nothing shouty, no really bright contrasty colours, no advertising-agency feel. And that's what I'm trying to keep going on my page: I even wonder if I've gone too far with the bright bars in the Garden Temp "Feels Like" column. . .?

On the debit side we have inherited from him the fashion for numeral 1 to be narrower than all the others. But 10 should appear the same width as 11 or 12 or 99, and then you can align them easily (example.png shows left-alignment OK but it's ruined by the figure 1 on the right!). Wim changed the clock, for which I am eternally grateful, but I shudder every time I see, e.g., 11.1 as in example2.
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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #94 on: June 12, 2019, 04:10:06 PM »
Have to agree. Come and join me in the customising business!

Not to derail this too much, but after seeing your thread I've been doing the same as well. I like April style so I've been tweaking the layout, added lightning info, icons to appear when it's raining, changing up colors, fonts, placement of stuff.  Been fun just going and figuring stuff out and tweaking to get what I'd like to see.

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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #95 on: June 12, 2019, 04:30:06 PM »
Been fun just going and figuring stuff out and tweaking to get what I'd like to see.

Exactly! And you're already one up on me if you've been playing with fonts  :)
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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #96 on: June 12, 2019, 05:35:01 PM »
hi

first and foremost all credits should goto  Wim not myself he basically took a incomplete version from 2017 into what you guys have now and are able to customise it to your liking.so replace weather34 where ever it is shown to something related to Wim . he deserves that credit .

@bitsofstring :-) has for thanking me or leaving your in debt ? as above incomplete version many aspects of that version was never completed and was left to the wayside..

the approach of using circles was dropped based trying to match and align additional language phrases that was a tedious task and if there had been no design approach then just using text on a plain background would have been easier but less pleasing in design,many times I could perfect the layout in english and throw it into dutch for example and suddenly it all goes a bit wonky .then mr smith comes along with his new laptop that has no keyboard no mouse,no touchscreen, but its got voice controlled commands and he cant view the popups it begins all over again(excuse my humor)

circles versus squares(ish) i think the fact you have an option to use either is all the more better for everyone though adds somewhat more things to oversee from the creative side.
I went with a redesign released it sat back and waited for the negatives to appear but none were forthcoming , I get the part we all have views on how things should look if we all saw it the same way then it becomes rather a stagnant uninteresting challenge and it ends up being it is what is scenario, so you have something in front of you that you can tweak and customise that makes it far better than it was in the past and again credit goes to Wim for making it somewhat easy to customise to your liking.

weather websites are one of the most challenging things to get right because there is no standard in the weather hardware, software, servers, units, languages and the list goes on .
its far far easier to design for your personal needs and never give a dam about others or requirements but getting it right for everyones needs is the big challenge..

as for advertising look no sure I follow that one fully but perhaps its the footer layout ? I only promote what hardware I use and trust , however Im about totally ditch the weatherflow hardware after there recent rain fiasco approach left a large question mark but thats for another thread and another day when the initial disappointment wares off ...

so please credit Wim where ever possible be it discretely or boldly . no need to use based on weather34 anywhere.. brian

so happy coding,customizing,breaking(best way to learn) and nolatron have you worked out what simsek means :-) or correctly typed Şimşek   

edit ps i like how you done it...

https://tureng.com/en/turkish-english/şimşek%20šakması
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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #97 on: June 12, 2019, 05:49:24 PM »
so please credit Wim where ever possible be it discretely or boldly . no need to use based on weather34 anywhere.. brian

Credit for Wim goes without saying, Brian, or we wouldn't have this version to play with at all. And I totally understand how difficult it is to please everyone, which is why I customised my page rather than raise lots of minor quibbles. I was expressing a personal opinion. . .

P.S. The weather up here is still pish  :)


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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #98 on: June 12, 2019, 05:56:29 PM »
there not quibbles just ideas thats how it evolved take the ones that work for most and unfortunately pass on the ones that dont.. not everything has to be opinionated :-) yes six months of living in a hotel in livingstone told me enough about  your weather and being a southern shandy drinking bastard from kent (as i was called many times humorously amongst other none post-able phrases  ) i needed the sun..take care...brian

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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #99 on: June 12, 2019, 06:03:14 PM »
and being a southern shandy drinking bastard from kent (as i was called many times humorously amongst other none post-able phrases)

You got off lightly, then :) Worse for me, I'm a Londoner. . .
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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #100 on: June 12, 2019, 06:24:07 PM »
guess a part of me is cockney with my mother being from lambeth ... anyway livingstone was a cadburys flake and there is more currant bun in kent ... take care its approaching big ben here and might cause some omar sharif if we carry on..

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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #101 on: June 13, 2019, 05:03:37 AM »
So after a day or two with the "Square" version, it has grown on me.  And I recognize the need to use a format that adapts to many languages and units, which may supersede some graphic desires.

Wim, you have done a fabulous job of packing a ton of information into one page, and making it work all around the world, in different languages, and different units.

Great job, and thank you so much for all your time & effort.
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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #102 on: June 17, 2019, 01:54:35 AM »
Hi
The feels like temperature which appears on this excellent template is different to that calculated by using the (seemingly) universally accepted formula found at:  http://www.bom.gov.au/info/thermal_stress/

Are there any plans to use the above quoted formula in this template in the future?

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griffo42

For the information of any who may be interested:

As I am a Cumulus user for pwsWD34 and I note that the Cumulus calculation for Feels Like Temperature uses the above referenced formula, I have made this simple amendment to line 401 of the script w34_livedata.php

from this:
$weather["temp_feel"]           = convert_temp ($num,$from,$to);

to this:
$weather["temp_feel"]           = $cu[54];

to show the calculation result preferred by me on my web page.

The option for Cumulus users to use this alternate calculation could, of course, be an option provided on the setup page, if so desired.

best wishes

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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #103 on: June 17, 2019, 03:33:50 AM »
For the information of any who may be interested:

As I am a Cumulus user for pwsWD34 and I note that the Cumulus calculation for Feels Like Temperature uses the above referenced formula, I have made this simple amendment to line 401 of the script w34_livedata.php

from this:
$weather["temp_feel"]           = convert_temp ($num,$from,$to);

to this:
$weather["temp_feel"]           = $cu[54];

to show the calculation result preferred by me on my web page.

The option for Cumulus users to use this alternate calculation could, of course, be an option provided on the setup page, if so desired.

best wishes

griffo42

Are you saying that your desired "feels like" is simply a value that switches (based on current conditions) between windchill and heat index?
« Last Edit: June 17, 2019, 03:35:58 AM by niko »

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Re: weather34 for WeatherDisplay - Wish List
« Reply #104 on: June 17, 2019, 05:44:03 AM »
Hi

Go to http://www.bom.gov.au/info/thermal_stress/ for a very full explanation of what is taken into account in calculating the value arrived at by the Cumulus software.  I can't put it any better!

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