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WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« on: September 19, 2018, 01:54:22 PM »
Like a good boy, I initially tried to install the software on an Android phone and failed miserably. I invoked the app and the download went on and on and on for several hours. Since then, the Play Store on the phone has disappeared. As I don't have any other Android equipment, I was a bit stuck.

I do have an Android simulator working under Windows, called BlueStacks, and I thought that that may be the solution to my problem but, for some unknown reason, WeatherFlow would not accept any of the software's Bluetooth apps, so that I was not even able to install the software. Grrrrr!

Looking through Brian's video, it would appear that the only info needed to set up Weather Display was the marked number. I surmised that the four figure serial number on the bottom of the Hub was the same. I tried that on an installation of WD but it hasn't worked, probably because it requires all the other Android data. Anyway, I'm now completely stuck on the installation as I don't have any other Android equipment or an iPlayer.

Watch this space!
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2018, 02:44:16 PM »
How old is your version of Android? A newer version of Android is probably required - I have Android 7.0 on both my tablet and phone and I had no problem establishing the first contact.

When you proceed through the steps of the WeatherFlow Smart Weather app, and establish a contact (via your internal WiFi network) to the WeatherFlow Hub, an identification number is assigned to your station (or to the hub) - the station ID number is the number that is required by Weather Display.

You might have to check with one of your neighbours to find out if any of them would have a phone with a modern version of Android (ie: greater than 6.x).

I wish I had a PC solution - unfortunately, the first contact must be made from a phone/tablet...  :(
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2018, 03:28:18 PM »
Thanks, R_o_B, you have probably hit the nail on the head, my Android phone is 2.3.5, a cheap Samsung! I'm not one of these people who change the phone every time it rains (although this year we are in severe drought). My last phone was a Nokia which lasted over 10 years but this one is only about five years, so far!
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2018, 06:59:25 PM »
yes, you need to use the app to set it up (via blue tooth)
are you able to borrow a compatible device?
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 07:23:38 PM »
No browser interface  :(

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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2018, 07:32:49 PM »
the setup is done via bluetooth
but some laptops now have that
so a windows program setup could be possible I guess?

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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2018, 07:54:12 PM »
That's true, my laptop has bluetooth  :)

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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 01:57:53 PM »
the setup is done via bluetooth
but some laptops now have that
so a windows program setup could be possible I guess?
Nope!

My PC has both WiFi and Bluetooth - unfortunately, the PC could not be used for original setup. I had to use my tablet with Android 7.0 and 'Bluetooth Low Energy' (ie: Bluetooth 4+) which is only available on more modern devices.
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 07:06:00 PM »
what I mean is that WF could develop a windows program

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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2018, 03:54:00 PM »
what I mean is that WF could develop a windows program
All new IoT devices I have installed in my home, including the Amazon Echo devices, needed their first contact to be initiated by an app that is designed to only works on Android or iOS - the more likely reason is that normally, desktop computers do not have Bluetooth nor WiFi installed ... and companies think that most people now-a-day (must/should) have a phone they can use...  :?
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2018, 07:42:14 AM »
Have tried every which way to get WeatherFlow working with two computers, one tablet and one phone, none of which worked. All of them balked at Bluetooth even with the computers set up for Android.

Much to my regret, it looks like I shall have to buy a new phone with an up-to-date version of Bluetooth. This annoys me as I dislike planned obsolescence in equipment. My present phone is only about five years old and works perfectly well, still with a good battery. I don't consider it useful to simply borrow a phone just to install the app because I would have no backup if, for any reason, I had to reinstall. GRRR!
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2018, 10:28:40 AM »
Having been watching this for a while I would be put off from buying one of these stations if my VP1 packed up just because of their idea to only allow bluetooth to be used for set up. In my view there should be a web interface as well as bluetooth. I think they need to rethink their strategy.

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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2018, 11:11:26 AM »
I agree with you that WeatherFlow would be better with an inbuilt web interface and with a Windows setup procedure which would be more tolerant of the age of the software. I must admit that I'm not impressed with the acrobatics I've been trying to get it to work without an ultramodern version of Bluetooth. I'm sure that I would've had it working several days ago if it had not been for Bluetooth (all versions that I have are prior to version 4!)
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2018, 03:31:13 PM »
As I wrote previously, almost all new devices (such as for home automation, etc.) can only activated from an Android or iOS device (phone/tablet) - WeatherFlow is not the exception - phone/tablet activation seems to have become the norm sometime last year.

As I wanted to 'modernize' my home automation system, I needed to replace my 'antique' X10 controllers and my aging Insteon controllers. My only options were to use either Z-Wave or Zigbee controllers - unfortunately, the two communication protocols are not compatible. So, I opted for the Z-Wave communication protocol and started looking for replacement light dimmers/switches, power outlets, etc. I quickly found out that all those new controllers needed some specific brand name hubs or bridges (such as Samsung SmartThings, Philips Hue, Lutron CasÚta, etc.). That is when I found out that the only way to setup and program all of those hubs and bridges was through the use of Android/iOS apps - only very few of the hubs and bridges can eventually be controlled through a personal computer ... but all the hubs and bridges first had to be 'initialized' through the use of an Android/iOS app.

Although almost all my IoT (internet of things) are specific for home automation, I was not surprised when I read that the WeatherFlow weather station needed to be 'initialized' through the use of the 'WeatherFlow Smart Weather' Android/iOS app. That is when I decided to purchase, for the first time in my life (I am 71+) a tablet and a smart phone (although the phone has not been activated with any carriers).
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Re: WeatherFlow installation on Weather Display
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2018, 06:59:11 AM »
All of this does not make it right. Having a web interface does not stop one using a phone if you have one but why force this on everyone.

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