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Offline Sven P

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WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« on: June 14, 2011, 07:01:37 PM »
Hi!

I got a new computer for about 10 month ago without real serial ports only USB. Since then my WS-3600 and Weather Display been down.

Last week I got an new serial card with 2 serial ports and 1 parallel port on. Each port has been tested individually and works OK!

But if you connect any of the serial ports with WS-3600 they can't find the WS-3600. I have tested with both the Weather Display
and the Heavy Weather Pro 3600 without any positive result of any kind. They can't see the ports. Same if I change to the other port.

The card has a chipset and driver from MosCip Semicondutor Technology Ltd called MCS9901CV-CC with a lot of individual settings.

My system is a Windows 7 64-bit.

Any who have a clue what could be wrong? Setting on in the driver to change?

I know that WS-3600 have a strange serial port not working with USB/Serial converters which I have tried many of!

Regards - Sven



Offline Sven P

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 07:16:50 PM »
Hi!

Isn't There a single soul who has an idéa what to do?

It's not possible with my new computer to communicate at all with the WD3600!

Please help!

Thanks in advance,

Sven

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 01:03:00 AM »
does it say, you mean, com port error in WD?
what is the com port number showing in device manager, ports?
i.e have you used that as the com port number to use?

Offline Sven P

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 07:44:49 AM »
Hi Brian!

I am using comport 1. I do not get any error report in WD.

Using the same port in Heavy Weather Pro 3600 result in time out to reach the port.

What I see in the serial device manager is Com 1 and that port I have used.

I have also tested with Com 2 with the same result.

I have tested both ports with other devices with good results.

Inside the device driver there are more than normal configuration alternatives but I have
let it be like it arrived.

I am thinking little about that maybe the serial cable could be faulty. Do you have the pinout configuration for that cable to make a new one?


Regards,

Sven

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 07:59:20 AM »
Please note, you can only have one program running, looking at the same serial port at one time. In saying that, it seems neither program finds the weather station on the serial ports.  Is there a Baud rate setting that needs to be applied - 9600? 19200?

I thought the WS3600 was a usb connected station. Everything changes and there is a wide variety of options now even with any manufacturer.
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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2011, 09:02:28 AM »
have you tried resetting the weather station console completly?


Offline Sven P

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 09:28:16 AM »
Hi!

I only use the comport with one program but experience since before it could maybe be used of more than one program not shown clearly.

Any advise for an free comport manager program which can show me all information needed? Also an pinout of the cable would be appricated!

Setting of my comport:

9600 bd
8 data bits
None Parity
1 stop bit
Auto hardware flow control

Also tested other speeds and configurations.

USB connection via USB-Serial converter is not possible with this weatherstation. Many have tested including myself with 3 different models without any progress!

Will do a new resetting of the weather station console. Have done this many, many times before but with no progress.


Regards,

Sven

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 09:37:52 AM »
its pointing to a problem that has developed with the weather station and its serial port

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 02:27:01 PM »
Setting of my comport:

9600 bd
8 data bits
None Parity
1 stop bit
Auto hardware flow control


What is the baud rate of the weather station?  Make sure the comm port and wx station baud rates match.

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2011, 06:09:04 PM »
thats not really needed, in windows, as the software sets the needed baud rate and other parameters anyway
as far as I am aware

Offline N7XSQ

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2011, 08:51:11 PM »
I have an 8 port serial card that uses Netmos-Moschip 9835 chips. My PIC programmer will not work on any of the Netmos ports, but will work just fine on the two serial ports on the motherboard. On the other hand, a UsRobotics v.Everything modem works just fine on the Netmos ports.

I think it is an RS232 signaling issue. Proper RS232 is specified as a current loop having +- 12v signaling levels. However, many interfaces will work with +-5v, and so some inexpensive devices do not bother generating +- 12v. I know my PIC programmer does not employ an RS232 interface chip, and I rather think the modem provides a serial interface that is fully RS232 compliant.  I suspect that my PIC programmer, and probably your device, is taking some "generally acceptable" liberties with the RS232 spec that are not compatible with the Netmos-Moschip chips, but since my programmer works fine on the motherboard ports, I haven't had the need to determine exactly what the issue is.

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2012, 11:24:56 AM »
Sven - I have a new computer and exactly the same problem and symptoms. No combination of  software settings fixed it. Can only agree with N7XSQ that the Moschip serial implementation does not meet the special needs of the 3600, as the serial card talks to my old dial-up modem without any problems. So it is a combination of the WS-3600 and a "close enough" implementation of the serial protocols in the serial/parallel interface card. I haven't got around to a different card yet - crook anemometer bearings, brittle external plastics and frequent spurious rainfall and minimum temperature readings mean that it is time to look for a "budget" weather station with USB interface to replace the WS-3600. I will miss the good battery life, relatively high refresh rate and excellent internal memory (meaning you only had to plug in to the computer every few weeks) - but it is time to move on!

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 05:50:34 PM »
Hi Gordon!

Still is a problem here. But in a few weeks time I will have brand new motherboard from the Asus P8Z77-V LE with all features you can ask for on the motherboard. Can you imagine it has a real serialport onboard! Not at the backpanel but on a connector on the board itself.

I will report here on the forum if it worked for me!

Regards,

Sven


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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 07:36:17 AM »
Have anyone got this to work, i.e. ws3600 via a com port to a windows 7 environment?

I have been struggling a lot with this. I got it to work for some days, but suddenly it stopped working. I do not know what got it to work, but I think it had to do with a major reset I did of the ws3600 station. I also played around with the com port settings (speed, fifo buffers) but no changes in behavior.

Finally, I got the following statement from LaCrosse support:
"We are afraid WS3600 weather station is compatible until Windows XP, so it will not work until Windows 7."

and after some refrasing of my problem I got this:
"As said before, it cannot work under Windows 7 as this model was launched several years ago and is not produced anymore. No driver exists."

Any comments or inputs?

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Re: WS-3600 and non functional serial port
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2012, 11:59:07 AM »
Hi Sven

I have a WS-2308 which used to work, and I lost the RJ-11 -> DB9 cable.

Did you get your issue resolved in the end?

Thanks


Robin

 

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