Use an OS THGR 810 temperature/humidity sensor as a global radiation sensor

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[Jose1701]

How to modify a Oregon Scientific THGR 810 temperature/humidity sensor to a global radiation sensor.

You need:

• THGR 810
• Light probe
• Resistor 2,5kOhm (in the pic there are two resistors 2,4kOhm + 100 Ohm)
• Screwdriver
• Electric soldering iron
• Software e.g.: Weather Display

The temp-sensor is measuring from –30°C up to +70°C. This area does mean from 0% up to 100% global radiation. To avoid some calculations you are able to set this by an offset in Weather Display. The resistor works as an adjustment resistor. In case of the THGR 810 we're speaking of an analog device. Therefore the modification is kind of simple and varies from type to type only regarding to the resistors you have to use. You can get the solution by using an ohmmeter. In case of digital measurement it is different. These won't be modifiable by using this method. I do not have any details about which units are analogue and which are digital. If you have information about that please leave me a message. I will then update this manual. But now to something completely different *lol* the modification of the unit. First you have to open it by removing four little screws at the reverse. You will see at the right place of the picture the temperature bead. Pic 1 (red X). This has to be replaced with the resistor by the light probe in a row. Alternatively you can cut off the RJ12-jack and solder it as you can see in pic 2 or you can make a professional jack to connect the light probe. This also depends which light probe you are using.

pic1

Now you have to solder the wire from the light probe to the board were once the temperature bead was. The other wire you connect with the resistor which you have to solder with the other connection on the board.

pic2

So long to the modification of the sensor. This has to be configured in the software. You first need to open Control panel --> Solar/Lunar Coordinates and put in your coordinates. This is important to let Weather Display calculate sun rising and sunset.

pic3

Secondly go to Control panel --> Solar Sensor. Now you need to configure the following settings:

1. In Solar Sensor in Jar Setup you have to tick that you use a temp and that this one is overwriting the measurements of a possibly existing UV sensor.

pic4

2. In Max Solar Time of Day/Time Zone/Lat/Long, Fudge offset put in the right coordinates and tick as you see in the screenshot. The tick mark at the bottom "Time of day shadow offset" regards to a possibly amount of shadow during the day so you can raise the radiation manually.

pic5

3. In Graph Plot/Misc Settings you have to tick how the curve may appear on your screen.

pic6

4. The following area (Threshold/...) conduces to calculate at what "time" the conditions have to show whether its sunny or not. Here you need to experiment a bit to get the right settings regarding to your location. Perhaps you have to modify this later or during the year.

pic7

After these modifications (settings) the sensor has to work and show you something like that, e.g.:

pic8

pic9

Good luck!

 

This manual came into being by seeing this website: http://www.pc-wetterstation.de/wetter/solarsensor.html

I wish to thank Alexander Horlamus who operate this site: http://www.horlamus.info/

Also thanks to Chuck Goble for helping me out with the English translation. http://www.chucksweather.com/

Author: Florian Bruhn www.wetternet.org

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[Windy Greg]

Hi
I am in New Zealand and have been looking around for a "light probe" but cannot find one. Is this the same beast as a "Photo Diode" ??. If so there seems to quite a few different ones available. It seems from your description the light probe produces voltage in which case I guess the photo diode would suffice but the ones I have seen have just bare wires rather than a lead so are difficult to set up re weathering.
Any further info would be good as I am not an electronics type person, more a broken down builder bloke.

Cheers

[NorCal Dan]

Some pictures of the one I built in the thread here.

[rickym]

How to modify a Oregon Scientific THGR 810 temperature/humidity sensor to a global radiation sensor.

G'day Jose,

Thanks for your detailed explanation here.  It's most appreciated.  I'm about to set up my WMR 200 system following your instructions, but depending on your answers to my questions below, please:

• What actual parameters does this system measure -- just solar radiation or UV as well?
• Will it enable me to discard my current UV sensor (UVN800). It seems to be a heap of garbage anyway
• Is it like a thermometer in a jar and will it measure (or indicate) cloud cover?
• If it measures cloud cover, will it do so at night as well as day?
  
• When set up, do I place it in a Stephenson's Screen alongside my existing temperature/humidity sensor or somewhere else?

Cheers,  

Rick

[Jose1701]

Very busy regarding to personal and business problems. I try to give some answers:

What actual parameters does this system measure -- just solar radiation or UV as well?

Only solar radiation

Will it enable me to discard my current UV sensor (UVN800). It seems to be a heap of garbage anyway

No, therefore it measures only solar radiation you need your UVN.

Is it like a thermometer in a jar and will it measure (or indicate) cloud cover?

No it won't directly. Have a look at pic7

When set up, do I place it in a Stephenson's Screen alongside my existing temperature/humidity sensor or somewhere else?

I don't understand what you mean. Sorry, not a native speaker.

Regards

Jose

[niko]

When set up, do I place it in a Stephenson's Screen alongside my existing temperature/humidity sensor or somewhere else?

It measures solar radiation so the sensor part needs to be in full sun, not shaded.

[rickym]

I don't understand what you mean. Sorry, not a native speaker.

Thanks for getting back to me Jose.  Most appreciated.  I think between you and Nikko all questions are answered anyway -- the sensor needs to be in the sun and not inside a box, eh?  Do you  have any photos of what it looks like when set up and showing the location of the solar sensor?

Thanks again,

Rick

[Jose1701]

Thanks for getting back to me Jose.  Most appreciated.  I think between you and Nikko all questions are answered anyway -- the sensor needs to be in the sun and not inside a box, eh?  Do you  have any photos of what it looks like when set up and showing the location of the solar sensor?

Thanks again,

Rick

Well, I will try to make some photos the next days, but as I said, I'm very busy at the moment.

Regards

Jose